Crisis at the Edge of Physics

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Crisis at the Edge of Physics

Postby RArvay » Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:00 pm

commentary from the New York Times

Format may be easier on the eyes if viewed at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opini ... ef=opinion

Crisis at the Edge of Physics

DO physicists need empirical evidence to confirm their theories?
You may think that the answer is an obvious yes, experimental confirmation being the very heart of science. But a growing controversy at the frontiers of physics and cosmology suggests that the situation is not so simple.
A few months ago in the journal Nature, two leading researchers, George Ellis and Joseph Silk, published a controversial piece called “Scientific Method: Defend the Integrity of Physics.” They criticized a newfound willingness among some scientists to explicitly set aside the need for experimental confirmation of today’s most ambitious cosmic theories — so long as those theories are “sufficiently elegant and explanatory.” Despite working at the cutting edge of knowledge, such scientists are, for Professors Ellis and Silk, “breaking with centuries of philosophical tradition of defining scientific knowledge as empirical.”
Whether or not you agree with them, the professors have identified a mounting concern in fundamental physics: Today, our most ambitious science can seem at odds with the empirical methodology that has historically given the field its credibility.
How did we get to this impasse? In a way, the landmark detection three years ago of the elusive Higgs boson particle by researchers at the Large Hadron Collider marked the end of an era. Predicted about 50 years ago, the Higgs particle is the linchpin of what physicists call the “standard model” of particle physics, a powerful mathematical theory that accounts for all the fundamental entities in the quantum world (quarks and leptons) and all the known forces acting between them (gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces).
But the standard model, despite the glory of its vindication, is also a dead end. It offers no path forward to unite its vision of nature’s tiny building blocks with the other great edifice of 20th-century physics: Einstein’s cosmic-scale description of gravity. Without a unification of these two theories — a so-called theory of quantum gravity — we have no idea why our universe is made up of just these particles, forces and properties. (We also can’t know how to truly understand the Big Bang, the cosmic event that marked the beginning of time.)
This is where the specter of an evidence-independent science arises. For most of the last half-century, physicists have struggled to move beyond the standard model to reach the ultimate goal of uniting gravity and the quantum world. Many tantalizing possibilities (like the often-discussed string theory) have been explored, but so far with no concrete success in terms of experimental validation.
Today, the favored theory for the next step beyond the standard model is called supersymmetry (which is also the basis for string theory). Supersymmetry predicts the existence of a “partner” particle for every particle that we currently know. It doubles the number of elementary particles of matter in nature. The theory is elegant mathematically, and the particles whose existence it predicts might also explain the universe’s unaccounted-for “dark matter.” As a result, many researchers were confident that supersymmetry would be experimentally validated soon after the Large Hadron Collider became operational.
That’s not how things worked out, however. To date, no supersymmetric particles have been found. If the Large Hadron Collider cannot detect these particles, many physicists will declare supersymmetry — and, by extension, string theory — just another beautiful idea in physics that didn’t pan out.
But many won’t. Some may choose instead to simply retune their models to predict supersymmetric particles at masses beyond the reach of the Large Hadron Collider’s power of detection — and that of any foreseeable substitute.
Implicit in such a maneuver is a philosophical question: How are we to determine whether a theory is true if it cannot be validated experimentally? Should we abandon it just because, at a given level of technological capacity, empirical support might be impossible? If not, how long should we wait for such experimental machinery before moving on: ten years? Fifty years? Centuries?
Consider, likewise, the cutting-edge theory in physics that suggests that our universe is just one universe in a profusion of separate universes that make up the so-called multiverse. This theory could help solve some deep scientific conundrums about our own universe (such as the so-called fine-tuning problem), but at considerable cost: Namely, the additional universes of the multiverse would lie beyond our powers of observation and could never be directly investigated. Multiverse advocates argue nonetheless that we should keep exploring the idea — and search for indirect evidence of other universes.
The opposing camp, in response, has its own questions. If a theory successfully explains what we can detect but does so by positing entities that we can’t detect (like other universes or the hyperdimensional superstrings of string theory) then what is the status of these posited entities? Should we consider them as real as the verified particles of the standard model? How are scientific claims about them any different from any other untestable — but useful — explanations of reality?
Recall the epicycles, the imaginary circles that Ptolemy used and formalized around A.D. 150 to describe the motions of planets. Although Ptolemy had no evidence for their existence, epicycles successfully explained what the ancients could see in the night sky, so they were accepted as real. But they were eventually shown to be a fiction, more than 1,500 years later. Are superstrings and the multiverse, painstakingly theorized by hundreds of brilliant scientists, anything more than modern-day epicycles?
Just a few days ago, scientists restarted investigations with the Large Hadron Collider, after a two-year hiatus. Upgrades have made it even more powerful, and physicists are eager to explore the properties of the Higgs particle in greater detail. If the upgraded collider does discover supersymmetric particles, it will be an astonishing triumph of modern physics. But if nothing is found, our next steps may prove to be difficult and controversial, challenging not just how we do science but what it means to do science at all.

Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester, and Marcelo Gleiser, a professor of physics and astronomy at Dartmouth College, are co-founders of NPR’s 13.7 Cosmos and Culture blog.
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Re: Crisis at the Edge of Physics

Postby Schmelzer » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:04 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/a-crisis-at-the-edge-of-physics.html?rref=opinion wrote:Recall the epicycles, the imaginary circles that Ptolemy used and formalized around A.D. 150 to describe the motions of planets. Although Ptolemy had no evidence for their existence, epicycles successfully explained what the ancients could see in the night sky, so they were accepted as real. But they were eventually shown to be a fiction, more than 1,500 years later. Are superstrings and the multiverse, painstakingly theorized by hundreds of brilliant scientists, anything more than modern-day epicycles?


This is not quite the point - Superstrings and the multiverse are, now, much less than modern-day epicycles.

The epicycles have been an empirically supported theory, they have made a lot of accurate predictions. They have finally replaced by a better empirical theory.

Superstrings and the multiverse do not even make any empirically supported predictions.
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Re: Crisis at the Edge of Physics

Postby Guest » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:01 am

That is an excellent point, Schmelzer. The author could have used a better analogy.
Even so, several other authors, including reputable physicists, have decried what THEY
see as the beginning of a trend in physics away from the traditional strictures of hard evidence,
and toward more abstract models, especially mathematical models.

This deserves attention and thorough discussion by scientists and their institutions.

As new theories are proposed, perhaps formal distinctions should be made between those with
empirical evidence and predictions, and those which do not rise to that standard.

Absent that, science will suffer a loss of credibility, especially as there are
several accusations already that science is becoming politicized.

Finally, I have speculated here and elsewhere that physics may be approaching the day
when it no longer produces substantive answers to questions. For example,
phenomena may be discovered that do not fit any proposed models.
If this happens, we may reach an impassable limit in our ability to further
explain nature.

Carefully considering these things now may help to avoid or diminish crises in the future.

Thanks for responding!
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Re: Crisis at the Edge of Physics

Postby AnotherGuest » Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:32 am

I think that a problem is that a lot of what is going on under the name "theoretical physics" is neither physics nor mathematics. It is pure speculation, disciplined neither by a need for mathematical rigour nor by a need to correspond to observation. It is of course cheap: you just need writing pads and blackboards, nothing much else. Now a few brilliant minds may speculate, and this might lead to exciting insights. For instance: the outlines of elegant mathematical structures that mathematicians so far never thought about, but which might be fruitful to investigate from a pure mathematical angle. Maybe some of such new mathematical structures might even turn out to be exactly the right thing for some new kind of physics. Deep pure mathematics often turns out to have deep connections with other parts of mathematics things and then moreover to be "unreasonably effective" in physics. Unexpected connections always lead to new insights.

But once this has happened, a new field of research is born. It is much easier to pursue the field when it is constrained neither by mathematical rigour nor by experimental relevance. In fact, if both the mathematical and the experimental paths are too hard to follow, the research field will grow like a cancer in the spot where it was born, free of either constraint.

Its existence generates a need for journals, conferences, professorial chairs. It generates an academic sub-community and an academic career path.

The trouble is, this became a whole academic industry. Tolerated by the "real physicists" (a) because it is cheap (b) because it seems that the media love it. And actually, (c) because it is easy. Garbage in, garbage out. A really smooth-running academic field, too fancy for anyone else to criticise, with some big stars leading the way. An empire inhabited by a population with no clothes. Once it has been born it grows out of proportion, becomes a monster, which no one can kill.

So I think the "crisis at the edge of physics" has happened because of the academic wall between mathematics and physics, and because of the general sickness of academia in modern times. Quantity instead of quality. Publication madness. The university as a career vehicle, and a publications and diploma machine.
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Re: Crisis at the Edge of Physics

Postby LWelch » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:00 pm

I propose a new noun - Stience - to describe those areas of legitimate physics/mathematical research that cannot be verified in the "near future."
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